In this video, we show the side by side comparison of the forehands of Andy Murray and Fabio Fognini.
I love the comparison and the angle of the racquet at the point of contact. The fact that the strings are cupping the ball only confirms the need for follow through. I use a physics term when I teach. The angle of incidence is equal to the angle of refraction. Stop the racquet at any angle and it will equal the angle of refraction. Using a forehand grip to volley can only mean down.
I’ve been focusing a lot on extension w/my students. The place tht they hit the ball consistently, extension,which is 75%of the stroke, then pace,which is about the last10% of the whole stroke. Glenn Williams USPTA/PTR.
that’s right Glenn
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Great job! I think you hit the nail on the head regarding the importance of a long hitting zone forward toward the intended target and Fabio’s extension is a terrific illustration. Too many players are focused on non-esentials such as the finish which detracts from their consistency amd control. Thank you again for your expert analysis.
Frank Sacks USPTA/PTR
Cool video comparison. I’m wondering if Andy Murray’s shot is a little more angular with more arc on the ball and that’s why his elbow was more bent than Fabios on the follow through / extension. Also, I find it interesting that Fabios take back had his elbow closer to his body and more extension & straighter arm on the follow through; while Andy’s take back had more spacing between his body and his arm and his extension wasn’t as driven as Fabios. This is why I think Andy’s shot was a little bit more angular with more topspin. It depends on the intent of their shot on how they are preparing to receive the ball.
thanks. I did notice that Andy kept his weight on his back foot (right) a little longer. it appears he is getting more leg drive than Fabio. do you think this can make a difference? I try to have my students drive with their legs to generate power. good comparison
Thank you very much Jorge
It’s a fantastic comparation!👍!
I’m trying to getting better in ANALYZING STROKES FOR DIAGNOSTIC AND CURE from intermediate and advanced players
Do you know lincs, course, video, literature, etc.
Where can I get get information about that??
Hi Ciro… I am not sure where there are links to teach that but my free website has a ton of slow motion pro footage as well as several analyzed videos by me. You can find that at.. https://www.jorgecapestany.com
Many thanks. Great to have this quality of vision and analysis.
Very good video and analysis. Although not quite as useful for a 4.5 guy who played in college 40 years ago and has nearly the same forehand grip!
Thanks Jorge. Really interesting and just good info. Everyone is a little different inside that range of acceptability. Very good.
Jorge, Great analysis of the two forehands ! My one suggestion would be to say something about the players being ‘in flight’ and that this extraordinary capability has only come from years and years of high level training and that even the normal rec/cub 4-5.0 NTRP player will have greater success with maintaining both feet on the ground. Whenever I send my clients to YouTube I always remind them that they are watching elite athletes and that there are components they as players can take away from the videos but there are some that are unrealistic for them to expect of themselves. The big take aways for a rec or developing junior player that you well pointed out was the unit turn and the racquet path.
Also, Murray lifted his head early while Fognini kept his eye on the contact point.
Good job. Keep them coming.
Jorge, Wow! Thanks for sharing. I was under the impression that the wrist should be laid back immediately during the unit turn. However, I notice that the wrist is straight during the backswing and doesn’t really get laid back until that lag phase as the body is rotating toward the net. I noticed Sampras using that lag technique back in the early 2000’s where he would lead with his elbow on the backswing creating a slingshot effect as he whipped that racket head through the ball. This was taboo in the 70’s when I was learning. That is the great thing about tennis is that the sport is always evolving. Good stuff there Jorge. Thanks for sharing.
Fascinating to see the similarities between two very effective attacking forehands. Thanks for this.
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Jorge, do you feel that the uncoil starts legs/hips then into the left arm pulling into the body? I’ve heard from some coaches that the left arm pulling into the body starts the uncoil.
I think they kind of happen simultaneously. I do know that in almost every ATP forehand the left arm is parallel to the baseline just before they uncoil
Nice comparisons, exactly what I enjoy teaching.
I like it because I don’t teach tennis I help people learn to play tennis
Thank you, Jorge. Great analysis! I’m going to
watch it a few times and take the ideas to the court
for my next hitting lesson. I think I notice the contact
point is made at the bottom half of the racquet. Larry
Both Guys did hit slightly below center of their frames which probably accentuates the closing of the racquet face immediately on contact.
Also Murray also seems to push/extend his left arm/shoulder farther away from his torso than does The Fogger.
TY for taking the time to prepare this vid…
Ken Brophy PTR
Your clips are the BEST, thank you so much.
Amazing footage and dissection. Unfortunately, I will never be able to hit at that level but still fun to watch and marvel.
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